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Post by BenJF3 on Mar 18, 2010 23:37:03 GMT -5
Tough Call, but the 1080p VOD would seem to be more easily added than the bandwidth for 3D networks. However, if #D takes off (and I think it will flop) they may have to up their game to compete with sat. Time will tell, but look how long it's taking to get a guide that would have been considered top shelf in 1998?
I, for one would like to see them go to an all or mostly digital network. That would free up enormous bandwidth for better HD compression and network traffic while alleviating the need for every channel being SDV.
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Post by UsualNoise on Mar 19, 2010 0:02:34 GMT -5
Just wanted to report that my wife is very annoyed by the new functionality that jumps back a bit when hitting play during fast forward. Apparently she's become quite adept at stopping at the exact time and now is unhappy having to sit through 5+ seconds of a commercial she thought she had already passed. I haven't used it so I can't really comment, just passing along the complaint. I guess you either love it or hate it.  |
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Post by BenJF3 on Mar 19, 2010 0:06:52 GMT -5
Just wanted to report that my wife is very annoyed by the new functionality that jumps back a bit when hitting play during fast forward. Apparently she's become quite adept at stopping at the exact time and now is unhappy having to sit through 5+ seconds of a commercial she thought she had already passed. I haven't used it so I can't really comment, just passing along the complaint. I guess you either love it or hate it. Lol, my wife constantly has to back up when fast forwarding, so I'm looking forward to this feature. I think a good option would be to allow for the disabling of it in the menu system for those that don't want it. |
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Post by horrorfan2112 on Mar 19, 2010 3:09:07 GMT -5
love the software on the 8300 night and day over the non dvr
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Post by ebo on Mar 19, 2010 9:32:25 GMT -5
I, for one would like to see them go to an all or mostly digital network. That would free up enormous bandwidth for better HD compression and network traffic while alleviating the need for every channel being SDV. They'll get there. But leading up to the shutdown of analog broadcasts they advertised that if you had cable you were all set; you didn't have to change anything. They have to wait until they think their customers have forgotten that promise. Not only will those customers lose the functionality of their analog TVs and VCRs connected directly to cable, they can't regain it by replacing them with digital equivalents as they could with broadcast. |
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Post by BenJF3 on Mar 19, 2010 19:21:17 GMT -5
I, for one would like to see them go to an all or mostly digital network. That would free up enormous bandwidth for better HD compression and network traffic while alleviating the need for every channel being SDV. They'll get there. But leading up to the shutdown of analog broadcasts they advertised that if you had cable you were all set; you didn't have to change anything. They have to wait until they think their customers have forgotten that promise. Not only will those customers lose the functionality of their analog TVs and VCRs connected directly to cable, they can't regain it by replacing them with digital equivalents as they could with broadcast. Yes they could. Other providers are already going all digital and providing Digital to Analog converters similar to the DTV OTA converter (in premise). They just hook it inline and get the digital line up. Comcast has something like this: digitalnow.comcast.com/Contents/DTA_online_ver_2.pdfThat said, I see you point about how they marketed the OTA Transition. However, I could see them doing a conversion in 2011 or so. I believe, they are mandated to provide basic via analog until at least then anyway. |
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Post by ebo on Mar 19, 2010 22:34:19 GMT -5
Not only will those customers lose the functionality of their analog TVs and VCRs connected directly to cable, they can't regain it by replacing them with digital equivalents as they could with broadcast. Yes they could. Other providers are already going all digital and providing Digital to Analog converters similar to the DTV OTA converter (in premise). They just hook it inline and get the digital line up. Comcast has something like this: digitalnow.comcast.com/Contents/DTA_online_ver_2.pdfOK, you have a DTA connected to your VCR instead of a direct cable feed as the link shows. While you're out you want the VCR to record one channel from 8:00 to 9:00, a second channel from 9:00 to 10:00 and a third from 10:00 to 11:00. How do you set that up? Can the DTA be programmed to change channels? Even if it can, that's two devices to program instead of one. A few fancy VCRs might be able to control the DTA; I have one that could change channels on my DTV receiver when I had that service. But most can't do that. |
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Post by BenJF3 on Mar 20, 2010 6:17:55 GMT -5
People still use VCR's?
I see your issue and believe that some of the DTA's available have IR blaster capability such as that of current set top boxes. However, at some point people have to move forward with the technology just as happened with the DTV conversion. People may not like it, but eventually cable ops are going to need to reclaim bandwidth.
The digital converter linked was basically an example of what one cable op (Comcast) is doing.
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Post by mattbanks on Mar 20, 2010 9:24:11 GMT -5
mjbanks- don't know about your samsung, but mine doesn't care for 480i content when using hdmi. I just disabled that res in the settings menu (option in there to select diff res). Wasnt something in the press last fall that Tivo and twc settled on something? it was just after that directtv case was ruled on in tivos favor? So what do you think we will see first from TWC: 1080p vod, or ESPN -3d ch? I am hoping for the vod.... I only have 480p and 1080i enabled. It's happening on both SD and HD channels. |
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Post by BenJF3 on Mar 21, 2010 6:29:28 GMT -5
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Post by shanedude on Mar 21, 2010 8:57:32 GMT -5
My old receiver (didn't have hdmi in.out) does this. So I have it hooked up hdmi to my tv then optical from tv to the receiver. I am getting dolby dig that way. Have you tried that?
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Post by mattbanks on Mar 21, 2010 10:45:27 GMT -5
I'm running into an issue with stretching SD content. In the old software, I had it setup to display 480p Widescreen and 1080i only. Now it's just 480p and 1080i, meaning it doesn't auto stretch SD content like it did before. It's a lot of menu presses to go in and set it the Picture Mode to Stretch, then have to go in and set it back to Normal for the HD content. Is there any way with the new Navigator software to have it always display the 480p content in Widescreen?
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Post by adam on Mar 21, 2010 12:56:25 GMT -5
I'm having the same issue with my 8300 DVR box. However, if you press the # button next to the zero it does stretch the SD programming. When you switch to an HD program, the HD program is not stretched, which is good news. But if you then switch back to the SD program you will have to press # again to stretch it.
That is the only way I have been able to fix that issue....so far.
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Post by mattbanks on Mar 21, 2010 18:23:58 GMT -5
I'm having the same issue with my 8300 DVR box. However, if you press the # button next to the zero it does stretch the SD programming. When you switch to an HD program, the HD program is not stretched, which is good news. But if you then switch back to the SD program you will have to press # again to stretch it. That is the only way I have been able to fix that issue....so far. Good call. Just reprogrammed by Harmony 890 so those buttons are there. Easier than going through the menus, but like you said, not ideal. |
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Post by scott on Mar 23, 2010 5:34:22 GMT -5
My 8300HDC was updated overnight. After playing with it for a few minutes, I'm liking it. It seems to be more responsive than people are reporting with some of the other models. Based on my first impressions, I'm liking the new software.
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