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Post by Skaggs on Sept 21, 2004 21:07:57 GMT -5
Let your opinion be heard. Cast your vote...maybe Freedom Communication and/or Albany TWC is lurking.
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Post by Brian on Sept 23, 2004 8:10:21 GMT -5
both wrgb and twc
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Post by john w on Sept 23, 2004 8:56:22 GMT -5
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Post by horrorfan2112 on Sept 23, 2004 9:26:01 GMT -5
The way I see it is channel 6 wrgb looks very bad and has looked bad since november 2003 when time warner put the screen up saying that they would provide the digital feed of wrgb as soon as wrgb provided it to them . In a couple of months it will be a year that that screen has been up . Regardless of what or who or why , it is still the general consensus among time warner customers that channel 6 is to blame . Most people who watch tv in our area receive their tv signals via cable . I know there are alternatives out there but most people have cable . I think they need to resolve this rediculous situation and stop all the finger pointing . Maybe we could have Peter Taubkin and the Owner of wrgb have a boxing match or something . I am just plain sick of it . If time warner needs to create different pricing packages and add 6 to a pay tier then so be it . I watch hdtv over the air on 6 and they have ALOT of hdtv programming to offer.
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Post by Skaggs on Sept 23, 2004 10:01:39 GMT -5
NOTE:
Guests are not able to vote in the poll. This is why Brian and John W posted their votes above instead of entering a vote in the poll.
Why not sign up to become a member? It's free.
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Post by Sregnar35 on Sept 23, 2004 10:49:04 GMT -5
How many of us actually know enough of the facts to really say whose fault it is. I don't know enough what the real story is...
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Post by MasterFX1 on Sept 23, 2004 11:00:34 GMT -5
OK, I agree that WRGB is losing ground in this battle...
But the slate on 1806 is rediculous. I'll be driving a Corvette just as soon as GM provides one to me. I'll be watching TWC at home as soon as service is provided to me. I'll be giving away free HDTVs to everyone single person in the Capital Region... just as soon as the manufacturers give me 800,000 HDTVs. Get it yet?... it's a loaded statement. They could also say that they will provide STARZ!-HD, MAX-HD, ENCORE-HD, TMC-HD, BRAVO-HD and PLAYBOY-HD... just as soon as the signal is provided to them.
WRGB should consider legal options concerning the slate. They were singled out as a result of the SuperBowl no-deal debacle. Notice there was never a slate for WNYT-DT and there is no slate for WEWB-DT. I think they have a case for slander or something like that.
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Post by Sregnar35 on Sept 23, 2004 11:04:55 GMT -5
I was under the impression that Time Warner and CBS had a nationwide deal in place to broadcast HD for every CBS network, and WRGB is holding out providing that?
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Post by OldMatador on Sept 23, 2004 11:13:49 GMT -5
OK, I agree that WRGB is losing ground in this battle... But the slate on 1806 is rediculous. I'll be driving a Corvette just as soon as GM provides one to me. I'll be watching TWC at home as soon as service is provided to me. I'll be giving away free HDTVs to everyone single person in the Capital Region... just as soon as the manufacturers give me 800,000 HDTVs. Get it yet?... it's a loaded statement. They could also say that they will provide STARZ!-HD, MAX-HD, ENCORE-HD, TMC-HD, BRAVO-HD and PLAYBOY-HD... just as soon as the signal is provided to them. WRGB should consider legal options concerning the slate. They were singled out as a result of the SuperBowl no-deal debacle. Notice there was never a slate for WNYT-DT and there is no slate for WEWB-DT. I think they have a case for slander or something like that. You have a good point. It is kind of ridiculous that they're singled out because of the spat... But it's ridiculous that they're not on yet. If WEWB gets on before WRGB, it'll make WRGB look even worse, no matter who is to blame for it. Speaking of WEWB-DT. Aren't they broadcasting in HD OTA? What aren't they on TWC yet? They're owned by the same parent company. Negotiations should be easy... |
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Post by OldMatador on Sept 23, 2004 11:14:33 GMT -5
I was under the impression that Time Warner and CBS had a nationwide deal in place to broadcast HD for every CBS network, and WRGB is holding out providing that? Perhaps this is why the placeholder is up? |
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Post by Hootster413 on Sept 23, 2004 12:10:55 GMT -5
Hey guys, as an outside observer, to me it looks like your gripe should be with TWC. Ultimately they are the ones you are buying your service from. You are their customer and you should be able to request the service especially at the price your already paying. If all your really interested in is CBS-HD, then maybe a solution for Albany TWC is provide another CBS station's HD feed which might be in violation of some FCC rules regarding markets. but you never know till you ask.
P.S - I can't get WRGB-DT either - the signal doesn't make it here!
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Post by MasterFX1 on Sept 23, 2004 12:11:56 GMT -5
I was under the impression that Time Warner and CBS had a nationwide deal in place to broadcast HD for every CBS network, and WRGB is holding out providing that? Another great effort by TWC Albany to mislead the public. The national deal they always point to is for affiliates that are owned by CBS. As we know, WRGB is owned by Freedom, not CBS. There is legal limit to how many local affiliates a network may own. CBS is at that limit. The same deal they are refering to did give TWC the right to negotiate with local affiliates, it did not grant them retransmission deals for those non-CBS owned affiliates. Speaking of WEWB-DT. Aren't they broadcasting in HD OTA? What aren't they on TWC yet? They're owned by the same parent company. Negotiations should be easy... Quite the opposite from what I understand. Tribune (Which is who actually runs WEWB) is more similar to Freedom than Time-Warner. Tribune and Freedom are both predominantly publishing companies that dabble in TV. I have been told "By the horses mouth," that WEWB-DT has the same issues that WRGB-DT has. |
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Post by MasterFX1 on Sept 23, 2004 12:16:42 GMT -5
If all your really interested in is CBS-HD, then maybe a solution for Albany TWC is provide another CBS station's HD feed which might be in violation of some FCC rules regarding markets. but you never know till you ask. Interesting proposition, I would need a Broadcast Lawyer to figure that out... but that is a danger for WRGB... IF they hold out too long, IF the CBS network is unhappy that a deal can't be reached, IF CBS waits for the current Network-Affiliate contract with WRGB to expire... That could very well happen. IF it is legal, that could be the knock-down blow that makes WRGB cave-in. |
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Post by Hankster on Sept 23, 2004 12:27:21 GMT -5
I was under the impression that Time Warner and CBS had a nationwide deal in place to broadcast HD for every CBS network, and WRGB is holding out providing that? I agree. If you look over at the AVS Forum almost everybody has CBS-HD through TWC. I don't care who owns WRGB, they look ridiculous. How many other privately owned CBS stations aren't providing HD for cable subscribers? |
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Post by horrorfan2112 on Sept 23, 2004 12:33:48 GMT -5
I admit I mislead in a big way by twc I was upset at channel 6. Now I see things in a totally different way . I remember a few months back there was a flaming thread where alot of people here were annoyed by masterfx1 trying to make us see both sides of the argument. That is how time warner duped us into automatically thinking that the problem lies only within wrgb. I mean what is one to think when they turn to that channel and see that message for 10 months. I can receive channel 6 OTA with a indoor antenna but the convenience of getting all my hdtv from twc would be nice. I know for a fact that twc monitors this site on a daily basis maybe if more of us direct the flames toward twc they will listen and do the right thing. We are all pioneers in this hdtv transition and the misinformation from albany twc does nothing but confuse and frustrate their own customers.
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